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Diving Subic Bay
Interesting Wreck Diving close to Manila in the Philippines.
Julien, Diving Advisor
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Went to Subic over the weekend and booked a room at Johan’s. The most expensive room was still cheap and a good bargain. I thought the food was horrible though. The place had this private club feel to it and, although I brought 6 guest, I felt more like I was a nuisance then a welcomed client…
On the diving side I thought that they were a bit pretentious, and although I had told them when I booked the room that I wanted to do 4 dives a day, I ended up doing 2 dives over the weekend with them.
Fair enough, they had a beach clean up, which took a lot of their time Sunday, but things like this should have been mentioned when I booked the room.
The divemaster had a big ego and bad bedside manners. He even lost me during the second dive and I was his only client!! He even lost the down line on a wreck!!! Lost control of his buoyancy and ended up at the surface. No big deal really, just that I thought it was hilarious coming from someone who seemed so far above everyone…
Fortunately, the Week End was saved when I went to Blue Rock hotel and their Dive shop took me out no problem. The staff out there was local, super nice and the diving experience was relaxed and pleasant. What diving should be all about.
The Dive themselves were very average. Visibility was poor due to a lot of algae. Likely due to pollution and stagnant water, although I am not an expert.
The coral reefs were a waste of time. I dove the LST, el Capitan and LCU.
The LCU was a more beginner wreck but I thought it was also more enjoyable.
I am going out there again because I forgot my weight belts, but I will try and go out on the USS New york which was not accessible last time.
If you are into wrecks, Subic is a good spot for beginners and those who want to train, as long as you don’t go to Johan’s….
Happy diving,
Etiennne
PADI MSDT
HSE Part1 Commercial diver
Thanks for the info Etienne.
I am taking my kids aged 13,16 and 18 to Subic and was hoping to do the PADI advanced and Johan’s was one of the places I considered but not any more! Thank you for the tip!
If you are still checking out this site, and seeing as you have been pretty recently, so know the conditions, if you have any advise on which dive sites would be worth trying, I’d really appreciate it.
Hope the next trip works out better for you!
Cheers,
Steve
Diving at Johan’s
The dive shop is excellent.
The hotel sucks and you won’t like it. The price is excellent but the slow service will turn you off. A prime example on why you should never hire relatives to help in any business venture.
I dove Subic Bay last summer at the Camayan resort. Visibility was ok despite the recent storms that had passed through earlier. I did the wreck diving so if there was any underwater landscapes to see I missed them. There area around the wrecks was pretty sterile. In any case, I would dive Subic Bay again, but I wouldn’t dive through the Camayan Resort. The equipment was pretty shotty and unsafe; the rented regulator breached at only 15 ft and our DM didn’t know how to fix it. This cut our dive short and they refused to make up the time so our two dive session went to one dive…for the same price. Typically I would have been using my own trusted regulator, but in this case I was over there for work with no plans to dive and was forced to stay an extra weekend, so the diving opportunity arose unexpectedly. The DM must been having a cruddy day as he spent most of the morning yelling at various employees, which made things a bit tense all around. As far as the area for wreck diving, it’s got plenty of ships to explore….hopefully you won’t get the same DM from the Camayan that we got.
Hi.
I took my kids to Subic Bay for a week of diving in October 2012 & planned to get us all up to advanced open water level but my daughter and I had caught colds just before the trip so couldn’t dive until the last day. Anyway, my sons got their SSI advanced through the Blue Rock Beach resort scuba diving centre as they don’t run the PADI course. The lads (16 & 13) did 8 dives including a night dive through the week and then they joined my daughter and I for two further dives at the end of the week.
The lads say that the visibility was up to 15m most days and were only wearing 3mm shortie suits except on the night dive. The visibility was about 5-7 m when I got to dive but there had been a tropical storm blow through the day before.
They mostly did wreck dives and there was very little in the way of marine life and coral although there were some lion fish, eels and one turtle. The wrecks were in good condition and with plenty of swim through sections to keep it interesting (not fully enclosed as there was an upper exit with the sunlight visible).
The DM (Jun) and his daughter were both very friendly and fairly flexible. with timings for going on dives….so no having to be up by 5 or 6 am and their boat (very minimal craft with no real areas to chill out) would leave from the beach outside the resort, so no long bus trips to/from the boat. The dives were all within 30 minutes or there about.
The equipment we hired (all bar our own mask and fins) was limited but in decent condition with no technical problems encountered.
The resort itself was pretty basic but the rooms were kept very clean and prices were very reasonable. However, their swimming pool is a joke!
The larger resort ‘Wild Orchid’ across the road allows the use of their facilities for a fee of 500 pesos per person, but considering you can redeem this throughout the day on food & drinks and the prices and choices are the same as at the Blue rock…we ended up eating there most nights as the bar had less young local girls hanging off the arms of old western guys than the blue rock resort….and they had a bigger pool and pool table.
We didn’t really venture around too much as taxi costs are high and there is not a lot out there anyway. The cost of the touristy things to do is also fairly high and we were on a cheap diving holiday but at least there were things available if we had really wanted to try them out.
I wouldn’t go back there unless I was at the advanced level already and then i’d do some of the more interesting wrecks which seemed to be off limits at the time…..there was a tropical storm part way through the week, so maybe that was the reason?
Hope the info helps.
Happy diving
Steve
Hi i wanted your opinion what resort would you suggest for Subic for a mens diving trip with a mix of diving and night life .
I live on Baloy Beach… I have been diving here for 7 years… I dive almost exclusively with Johan’s.. their attention to diver safety, equipment and experience is second to none… Johan (one of the few tech instructors in PH) and Paul (his regular PADI instructor) are excellent teachers for divers at ALL levels. I know exactly who the dive leader is that Etienne refers to negatively in a previous post; he is only a temp and to be kind a bit of a know-all and not a great diver. Not at all representative of the professional operation Johan runs. The local Dive Masters are first class(Henry and Eljohn) know the sites and both have eyes like hawks.. The resort is basic, reasonably priced, clean and the food is generally reliable, the WIFI is routinely slow though. The wreck sites are mostly easy dives. LCU is a great “first wreck dive” … LST is deeper but one of my favorites… “San Quintin”, “The Canyons” and “The Barges” offer some of the best photo-ops especially for the macro-photographer.. nudies, flatworms, shrimp, crinoids etc…. The “New York” is the site most talked about… it also has the worst Vis as it sits right in the shipping lane…Great dive if you’re lucky.. and a good penetration dive if you know what you’re doing, dangerous if you don’t; people (experienced divers) have died in there. If clear water is your thing time your trip for the best times of year (not rainy season). Ocean Adventure and Zoobic improve every season the JEST survival camp and tree top Zip-lines are fun activities and Harbor Point is a nice Mall to shop in. Driving around, look for the fruit-bats in the trees down by the airport, (they aren’t at the bat sanctuary anymore) and don’t open your windows for the monkeys, they bite! If you drive, don’t roll-through the stop-signs in SBMA, wear your seat-belt and keep infants in the back of the car preferably in a car seat… they are very very strict there. Hope this helps you guys.. Oh and finally if its a “boys trip” there are many nice bars in Baretto.. with some good food options. “Harleys” if you want to watch sport (Hickey can get most things on his array of cable feeds).. “Allies” does great Fish and Chips (Pies too)… Many live bands to watch around town, but don’t get so drunk you make a total ass of yourself. And disrespect the bar-owners, dancers, security guards and local police at your peril… You’re a guest.. behave like one.
went to Subic bay for a dive trip, with Johan’s, about 2-3 years back. Some of the wrecks were beautiful. the highlight (perhaps the only one) for me was was the japanese one, felt magical, like little mermaid would spring out singing. the rest of the dive sites, most were very stale and gloomy, no blue waters or much marine life, they were just grey and felt dusty, kinda depressing. it wasnt any much better on land too. Do not expect much of the beach either, it isnt like the rest of the clear blue waters like their neighbouring beaches in Philippines. The area felt like a red light district, there were many older expats with Filipinas. We actually was dining beside a group of them, expats & fillipinas, and one of them had 2 of her kids present too. it was kinda strange for us. Johan’s bar was in an old american setting, which was nice. the rooms were okay, we had one facing the sea (though the beach wasnt much) but the showers were terrible, with pathetic water flow, had to fill up bottles to wash my hair. it wasnt a great trip, at least for us. dont mean to sound negative, but, i wouldnt return, neither would i recommend. :S
I just got back from Subic Bay, last week … I stayed at the Arizona Hotel and dove with Arizona Dive Shop, and I was thoroughly pleased with both the shop and the hotel.
First, as to the hotel, it is a GREAT place for a mature bachelor to stay. I had a “deluxe” room, actually Room 1 right next door to the dive shop, and it was quite comfortable, though fairly simply furnished. The food service is impeccable, with the exception of the rump-steak I had with my first breakfast – but later meals made up for that handily. And you have a choice of three bars on-site — the one in the dining room, plus the Floating Bar in the afternoons and Score Bar in the evenings (both of these last two have a bevy of “Guest Relations Officers” to sweeten your visit!)
Next, the Dive Shop may be compact, but it is efficient and well-run and the staff are endlessly helpful! Kent and Gary run a tight, professional operation, along with instructor/leaders Mike and James; the boat staff and helpers are helpful and courteous, almost to a fault; and the boat itself is the best day-trip boat I’ve seen outside of the USA. (It’s one of their traditional trimarans, with decks out to the pontoons and a “bench step” on each side for gearing-up before you go in the water.
The diving – well, remember that Subic Bay is a harbor, and a busy one … The visibility on the USS New York was poor, but it’s close to the port facilities and it’s often stirred up. Viz on the other wrecks varied, from about 5 meters on the El Capitan (which is in a sheltered cove) to maybe 15-20 meters on the San Quentin (which is alongside Grande Island, near the mouth of the Bay, and is cleared out by tidal currents). That said, there’s a lot of fascinating sea-life to be observed, from nudibranchs and beautiful “feather-star” crinoids to anemones full of juvenile clownfish – and I missed seeing the turtles. If you are interested in wreck-diving, and I mean as in going inside the shipwrecks, you can learn it here, and they have all the equipment for rent or to buy; I’m into photography, so I was content to stay outside, but I did follow along on a few swim-throughs where we were always in sight of the light. If you really want “gin-clear waters” and photogenic reefs, go elsewhere, but if you like shipwrecks, this is the place.
Barrio Barretto – “J” above mentioned that “the area felt like a red light district.” Actually, J, it pretty-much is … there are two dozen or so “go-go bars” on either side of the main street, west of the Arizona (and its own Score Bar). This is great for a mature bachelor who’s looking for “a taste of the sweetness” while he’s on vacation – certainly, for THIS mature bachelor – but if that offends you, there are plenty of other places to dive in the Philippines. (And your absence makes more space for me and my ilk!)
I’ll be back – and next time, I want to spend more time in-country, and do more than just diving and night-life.
hey guys, thanks for all the info. a few friends and i are visiting the philippines and were considering our options. either coron or subic. are they comparable for a dive trip? i have dived in many places in the philippines but not in either of the 2 and will be getting my advanced water, so looking fwd to the wrecks and my mates will be getting their open water license. should we just pay the lil extra for flights and go to coron or expect equal beauty in subic. imy friends will be in the philippines for the first time, so i really want them to have a good time. thanks in advance.
Darrel, I am puzzled that you’d take new divers to a site that caters to a small subset of diving, namely wreck dives. You need to be AOW to get most of the featured sites. I have dived neither, however, two good friends were in Subic in February 2016 and cut short their trip. They told me that volcanic ash had left a gray monotone layer of dust. The sites are known to have low vis and they confirmed that. I think you can find better places to go than these two, they are AOW specialty sites perhaps saved for a future visit. Why not find sites with good visibility and large fish count. Your buddies will appreciate that. And take Nitrox as one of your specialty courses for AOW cert, you’ll find that a valuable specialty that actually counts for something.
Darrel, unless your trip is already over… Go dive Coron! I have been to Coron and can say unreservedly it is the best place I’ve been so far in the Philippines and I’ve been working my way around the islands in the last 15 months.
There is beginner diving on wrecks and reefs–as well as advanced wreck diving–and amazing reefs and sea life at every level; even snorkeling. Check out Rocksteady divers; they’re great–very organized, knowledgeable and affordable.
I am diving Subic this coming weekend so it’s possible my thoughts may change but I don’t think so. Enjoy!